#22392: "No explanation of who starts first in case 2 or more players have the same result"
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Natančen opis
• Kopirajte / prilepite sporočilo o napaki, ki ga vidite na zaslonu, če ga imate.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Prosim, pojasnite, kaj ste hoteli storiti, kaj ste naredili in kaj se je zgodilo
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Kopirajte / prilepite besedilo, prikazano v angleščini, namesto v vašem jeziku. Če imate sliko zaslona te napake (dobra praksa), lahko uporabite Imgur.com za nalaganje in kopirate/prilepite povezavo do slike tukaj.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Je ta tekst dosegljiv v prevajalnem sistemu? Če ja, ali je bil preveden več kot 24 ur nazaj?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Natančno in jedrnato pojasnite svoj predlog, da bo čim lažje razumeti, kaj mislite.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Kaj je bilo prikazano na zaslonu, ko ste bili blokirani (prazen zaslon? Del vmesnika za igro? Sporočilo o napaki?)
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Kateri del pravil ni bil upoštevan pri priredbi za BGA
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Je kršitev pravil vidna na seznamu potez? Če je, pri kateri številki poteze?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Katero potezo ste želeli narediti v igri?
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Kaj ste poskušali narediti, da bi izvedli to potezo v igri?
• Kaj se je zgodilo, ko ste poskusili to storiti (sporočilo o napaki, sporočilo v vrstici stanja, ...)?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Na kateri točki v igri se je težava pojavila (katera navodila so bila prikazana)
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Kaj se je zgodilo, ko ste poskušali narediti to potezo v igri (sporočilo o napaki, sporočilo v vrstici stanja, ...)?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Prosim opiši problem s prikazom. Če imate sliko zaslona te napake (dobra praksa), lahko uporabite Imgur.com za nalaganje in kopirate/prilepite povezavo do slike tukaj.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Kopirajte / prilepite besedilo, prikazano v angleščini, namesto v vašem jeziku. Če imate sliko zaslona te napake (dobra praksa), lahko uporabite Imgur.com za nalaganje in kopirate/prilepite povezavo do slike tukaj.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Je ta tekst dosegljiv v prevajalnem sistemu? Če ja, ali je bil preveden več kot 24 ur nazaj?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
• Natančno in jedrnato pojasnite svoj predlog, da bo čim lažje razumeti, kaj mislite.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v84
Zgodovina poročil
First of all, here is the relevant text from the official rules: "The first player is the one with the lowest ship total (resolve any ties by rolling other dice)" (www.funforge.fr/US/files/quantum/Quantum_rules_US.pdf)
However, I've never seen any evidence of "rolling other dice". So, I went through my last 50 games for all games that started with a tie in ship totals. I found 5 such tables, and I "lost" the tie break every time:
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=114587870
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=114318546
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=114216828
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=113573590
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=113368664
Admittedly it's not the biggest sample size, but I think it's enough to be significant: the probability of losing all 5 coin flips is only 0.5^5 = 3%.
I've glanced through the code, and I don't see any alterations to the order of the player list after it is fetched from the DB. I believe the relevant code starts at quantum.game.php:116. I'm also not a PHP programmer, so I'll defer to those who have actually worked on the code :)
I'll also note that 4/5 of the above instances, my player ID is lower than my opponent's (outlier is ibav, table #114216828).
The low-effort fix here would be to simply shuffle the player list randomly immediately after fetching from the DB, and add an explanation to the log text that indicates the starting player was selected randomly.
Thanks as always for your work on this game!
boardgamearena.com/1/quantum?table=118667175
Has there been a code change that fixed this?
imgur.com/mpz8cTf
imgur.com/2Dkb3LW
imgur.com/pN4YZ4j
imgur.com/MM4GYCY
imgur.com/IrW8uqC
Let me know if this is still an issue. Closing as fixed now.
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