#37708: "Hecate vs heroes"
Na kaj se nanaša prijava?
Kaj se je zgodilo? Prosimo, izberi spodaj
Kaj se je zgodilo? Prosimo, izberi spodaj
Prosimo preverite ali že obstaja poročilo o isti zadevi
Če je tako, GLASUJTE za to poročilo. Poročila z največ glasovi se obravnavajo PREDNOSTNO!
| # | Status | Votes | Game | Type | Title | Last update |
|---|
Natančen opis
-
• Kopirajte / prilepite sporočilo o napaki, ki ga vidite na zaslonu, če ga imate.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
-
• Prosim, pojasnite, kaj ste hoteli storiti, kaj ste naredili in kaj se je zgodilo
31 and 48
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Kopirajte / prilepite besedilo, prikazano v angleščini, namesto v vašem jeziku. Če imaš posnetek zaslona te napake (priporočljivo), ga lahko naložite na poljuben način (snipboard.io for example) in tukaj prilepite povezavo. Je ta tekst dosegljiv v prevajalnem sistemu? Če ja, ali je bil preveden več kot 24 ur nazaj?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Natančno in jedrnato pojasnite svoj predlog, da bo čim lažje razumeti, kaj mislite.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Kaj je bilo prikazano na zaslonu, ko ste bili blokirani (prazen zaslon? Del vmesnika za igro? Sporočilo o napaki?)
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Kateri del pravil ni bil upoštevan pri priredbi za BGA
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
-
• Je kršitev pravil vidna na seznamu potez? Če je, pri kateri številki poteze?
31 and 48
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Katero potezo ste želeli narediti v igri?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
-
• Kaj ste poskušali narediti, da bi izvedli to potezo v igri?
31 and 48
-
• Kaj se je zgodilo, ko ste poskusili to storiti (sporočilo o napaki, sporočilo v vrstici stanja, ...)?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Na kateri točki v igri se je težava pojavila (katera navodila so bila prikazana)
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
-
• Kaj se je zgodilo, ko ste poskušali narediti to potezo v igri (sporočilo o napaki, sporočilo v vrstici stanja, ...)?
31 and 48
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Prosim opiši problem s prikazom. Če imaš posnetek zaslona te napake (priporočljivo), ga lahko naložite na poljuben način (snipboard.io for example) in tukaj prilepite povezavo.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Kopirajte / prilepite besedilo, prikazano v angleščini, namesto v vašem jeziku. Če imaš posnetek zaslona te napake (priporočljivo), ga lahko naložite na poljuben način (snipboard.io for example) in tukaj prilepite povezavo. Je ta tekst dosegljiv v prevajalnem sistemu? Če ja, ali je bil preveden več kot 24 ur nazaj?
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Natančno in jedrnato pojasnite svoj predlog, da bo čim lažje razumeti, kaj mislite.
In this specific game, Polyphemus used its power but since the second dome was build over Hecate, the power was not discarded.
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Google Chrome v89
Zgodovina poročil
In cases where the interaction of two powers is too complex for us to code -or- if the interaction is causing confusion for BGA players -or- if we determine the interaction is very unfair, we will add more bans.
Some examples:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=21093 - too difficult to code
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=29287 - confusing
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=33571 - unfair
I think the official rules don't include *any* bans between normal gods and heroes, because they don't expect you to mix them in the same game (that's for expert players only). For example, the official rules do not ban Circe vs heroes, but this is clearly unfair and must be banned.
Also, the "How to play" page now lists the banned matchups for each power: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpsantorini
For Hecate vs Heroes, I think this can be fixed and am happy to help to reduce Hecate's ban list.
It is still my view that the treatment of hero powers vs God powers is incomplete at best, but mostly they did not consider these interactions at all. Remember, the official rules do not ban Clio vs. any heroes, but they should (it is not fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and discard it... nor is it fair for Clio to steal a one-time power, use it herself, and return it).
The situation with Hecate vs. heroes is the same. There's no fair way to resolve the problem of a partially-cancelled hero turn. Imagine a one-time power related to moving, where the hero's movement is valid but the building is not. It's not fair to cancel only the build portion of the turn and still discard the one-time power about movement (you wouldn't have wasted the one-time ability if you couldn't do the whole turn). Nor is it fair to let them keep the one-time power (since technically it was used). Nor is it fair to just cancel the entire turn. There's no good way to resolve this interaction. The rules here are completely broken. It should reman banned to remain fair.
I must disagree with you. I think Hecate vs Heroes should not be banned. The heroes can still use their power as in a normal game and if well used, it could be very difficult for Hecate to counter (for example, Bellerophon is a clear example of a hero that would be very strong against Hecate). The thing is, as an hero you have to make sure you use your power well. If you suspect Hecate might interrupt your turn, then just don't use your power at all and save it for later. I understand that implementing Hecate vs Heroes could lead to some changes (and that would be perfectly understandable)... But I wouldn't mind to play with an hero against Hecate, I wouldn't feel like I was in disadvantage.
Dodaj nekaj k temu poročilu
- Drug ID mize/ premikanje ID-ja
- Ali je F5 rešil težavo?
- Se je problem pojavil večkrat? Vsakič? Naključno?
- Če imaš posnetek zaslona te napake (priporočljivo), ga lahko naložite na poljuben način (snipboard.io for example) in tukaj prilepite povezavo.
