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#628: "Hand size is updated before player's move is revealed"

confirmed: Hrošč je bil potrjen s strani razvijalcev

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Race for the Galaxy #8286208

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Hrošči pri prikazu: nekaj v igri je bilo narobe prikazano (a ni imelo pomembnega vpliva na samo igro)

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Hrošči pri prikazu: nekaj v igri je bilo narobe prikazano (a ni imelo pomembnega vpliva na samo igro)

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Apr 22 nd 2014 15:27 • fameros • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

I have seen it happening many times now, systematically.

Sep 27 th 2016 16:28 • galehar • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

This is an information leak and can indeed be confusing. Also, paying for cards should happen after the played cards are revealed.

Oct 21 st 2016 14:47 • demiurgsage • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

Yes, I see this bug in every turn based game.

Nov 12 th 2016 12:56 • galehar • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

The score is also updated before the card is revealed, which is further information leak.

Sep 10 th 2017 17:55 • gentil • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

Absolutely agree, and in many games it has a big impact on play decisions ; military force is revealed as well

Jul 24 th 2018 11:27 • SPLAT • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

This is an important bug to me and should be fixed. It can really change your decision, specially in the final round and this information should be hidden, not revealed. Not it benefits the 'slower' player and something like that should never be the case.

Aug 11 th 2018 12:33 • irakun • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

Same as others said. Military, hand size and points are updated before the played card is revealed, thus it benefits the last player that chooses what to do...

Dec 25 th 2018 02:44 • Nerou • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

With expansions also progress on goals is updated immediately. It seems that after refreshing a page values are pulled from latest state and not state at the beginning of a round.
en.1.boardgamearena.com/raceforthegalaxy?table=46505215 Just now I choose world to settle and it shows I have 3 cards played with explore power, but my 3rd card with explore power wasn't yet revealed to my opponents.

Oct 8 th 2020 18:24 • LumpySpring • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

As others have said. Updating points etc before all players have chosen is (on occasion) game breaking. I'm surprised this is not higher up the priority list...
Screenshots of this in action (before and after the reveal): imgur.com/a/hvs77PE

Dec 18 th 2020 22:15 • Limdy • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

I have same issue: You can see the updated victory points before cards are revealed. So you know that your opponent will play a high or low card and can change your decision.

Dec 19 th 2020 10:10 • Echsecutor • Razvijalcem tega hrošča še ni uspelo reproducirati:

reproduced (firefox)

Jan 20 th 2021 16:33 • galehar • Hrošč je bil potrjen s strani razvijalcev:

I plan to work on this at some point.

Jan 20 th 2021 16:33 • galehar • Hrošč je bil potrjen s strani razvijalcev:

I plan to work on this at some point.

Jan 26 th 2021 13:10 • Phoxtrot • Hrošč je bil potrjen s strani razvijalcev:

I don't think that delaying payment of the card is good, it would further slow the game and figuring out if someone can pay when there are multiple special cards around that can be used to reduce the cost if you discard some other cards would be error prone.

But yeah, essentially we need a temporary player specific context so that the actions of a player are done within a context and visible only to him/her until everyone has completed the sub-phase

The trick is that some simultaneous actions are impacting one another since you don't want multiple players to draw the same cards.

Another problem is the objectives tiles, for the sake of simplicity, players should not see the impact of their actions on them since this can be impacted by what other players are doing. At least for the 5 points objectives.

And takeovers are hard to tackle. They should be prepared simultaneously and as players end the colonization sub-phase they get resolved one by one (but all the impacts of newly played worlds or discarded developments has to be ignored). Though nut...

I think that the rules about which players have to draw first and all that is pretty much irrelevant and can be ignored. It might have an impact if you want to draw your cards after a reshuffle of the deck rather than before and vice-versa but that is very marginal especially if nobody knows if we are about the shuffle or not...

Jan 26 th 2021 13:11 • Phoxtrot • Hrošč je bil potrjen s strani razvijalcev:

update: even the 3 points objectives might be impacted by what other players are doing if there are takeovers involved.

Jun 8 th 2021 01:19 • Phelan • Hrošč je bil potrjen s strani razvijalcev:

This seems related to this bug: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=9497

Aug 9 th 2022 17:44 • Phoxtrot • Hrošč je bil potrjen s strani razvijalcev:

We still have many small timing problems with information. Some solved by a F5 but more are actually created by a refresh.

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