#49549: "Free choice: assign 'dark green' tasks to players automatiquely"
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Natančen opis
• Kopirajte / prilepite sporočilo o napaki, ki ga vidite na zaslonu, če ga imate.
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Prosim, pojasnite, kaj ste hoteli storiti, kaj ste naredili in kaj se je zgodilo
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Kopirajte / prilepite besedilo, prikazano v angleščini, namesto v vašem jeziku. Če imate sliko zaslona te napake (dobra praksa), lahko uporabite Imgur.com za nalaganje in kopirate/prilepite povezavo do slike tukaj.
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Je ta tekst dosegljiv v prevajalnem sistemu? Če ja, ali je bil preveden več kot 24 ur nazaj?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Natančno in jedrnato pojasnite svoj predlog, da bo čim lažje razumeti, kaj mislite.
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Kaj je bilo prikazano na zaslonu, ko ste bili blokirani (prazen zaslon? Del vmesnika za igro? Sporočilo o napaki?)
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Kateri del pravil ni bil upoštevan pri priredbi za BGA
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Je kršitev pravil vidna na seznamu potez? Če je, pri kateri številki poteze?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Katero potezo ste želeli narediti v igri?
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Kaj ste poskušali narediti, da bi izvedli to potezo v igri?
• Kaj se je zgodilo, ko ste poskusili to storiti (sporočilo o napaki, sporočilo v vrstici stanja, ...)?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Na kateri točki v igri se je težava pojavila (katera navodila so bila prikazana)
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Kaj se je zgodilo, ko ste poskušali narediti to potezo v igri (sporočilo o napaki, sporočilo v vrstici stanja, ...)?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Prosim opiši problem s prikazom. Če imate sliko zaslona te napake (dobra praksa), lahko uporabite Imgur.com za nalaganje in kopirate/prilepite povezavo do slike tukaj.
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Kopirajte / prilepite besedilo, prikazano v angleščini, namesto v vašem jeziku. Če imate sliko zaslona te napake (dobra praksa), lahko uporabite Imgur.com za nalaganje in kopirate/prilepite povezavo do slike tukaj.
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Je ta tekst dosegljiv v prevajalnem sistemu? Če ja, ali je bil preveden več kot 24 ur nazaj?
• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
• Natančno in jedrnato pojasnite svoj predlog, da bo čim lažje razumeti, kaj mislite.
Once everyone has clicked on 'Done', assign each task asked in solo in dark green to one of the player which asked that task (starting with commander).• Kateri brskalnik uporabljaš?
Mozilla v5
Zgodovina poročil
If people aren't agree with it they should: refuse the task afterward/talk in chat/not put that task in dark green.
It's possible to extend it to 'light green' too (but not for worst, i would like the commander to manually choose).
And the 5% of task left can be changed by the players themselves.
For each task:
- if a single player put a dark green opinion on it, give (=put the task in front of him, but still let the commander move it) automatiquely the task to him
- else, if no player put a dark green opinion on it, and if a single player put a light green opinion on it, give automatiquely the task to him
- else, leave the task to the middle
On game 1, A & C don't work well. A should be cancelled because of ABCI (compared to my last post), and C is just... unlucky. Guess C should stay in the wrong, I should kindly ask in chat to change
On game 2, G is the only wrong. But it's like C on the previous game
On game 3, that 'ACH' ruin everything. If we change 'ACH' by 'A'+'C'+'H', we got everything which goes well and D not put to anyone....
For each task taken individually:
- IF a player put a dark green opinion on it, AND others players did not put any bundle of tasks with that task in dark green
=> give automatiquely the task to him (=put the task in front of him, but still let the commander move it)
- else, if no player put any bundle of tasks with that task in dark green, AND if a single player put a light green opinion on it, AND others players did not put any bundle of tasks with that task in light green
=> give automatiquely the task to him
- else
=> leave the task to the middle
These rules seem to put lots of tasks in the middle but it’s not the case, there is lots of rules which instead of giving a task to a player will make the task stay in the middle.
So with those new rules, on the previous screenshot, we got (success-fail): 4-1, 6-1, 3-0 which give 13-2.
With those 11 more screenshots, we got:
3-0, 4-0, 4-0, 4-0, 4-0, 7-0, 1-0, 2-0.
And I guess the bugged game would give 3-2.
If I sum all that I obtain: 32-2.
If I sum both screenshots, I got 45-4, so 90.7% of tasks assigned automatiquely were right.
Still need to try more 4 players, and try 5 players, but that look an enough good number to me to do it :(
- 45 were correctly automatised (51%)
- 4 were incorectly automatised (4.5%)
- 32 were not automatised (36%)
51% is pretty high. I suppose it would be lower with more 4/5 players games.
I find it really sad because I'm convinced it would be positive.
But fine, you can close it if you want.
And endlessly frustrating any other time.
There are so many cases where despite a high rating from one crewmate, it's still better to give them to someone else for easier combo,s for example.
Or when someone rates one task high, but has another (incompatible) task rated just a bit lower that nobody else can do. Just a few examples of the top of my head.
And even in the cases where you're happy with the automated distribution. I doubt it would actually save all that much time. Commander will still have to read and think about all tasks to decide if it's the best distribution. Only now instead of having them all neatly in the middle, they're all already scattered around the table.
Thinking tends to take the most time, after that the time it takes you to click is negligible
So remember that last time on my %, I took in purpose a game where the automatic way goes wrongly.
I took 4 more games, there was no mistakes, and about ~50% of automatisations.
"There are so many cases where despite a high rating from one crewmate, it's still better to give them to someone else for easier combo,s for example." => "So many" hum :D Yeah in theory, but in practice, this just work well most of the time.
The thing is, even on your case (which is rare I insist), after the automatisation, the task D appear to be taken by no one. AND someone put a bundle with task DE in light green or gray (if it was dark green, no task of that bundle would be assign automatiquely). AND someone else put the task E in dark green, or light green if before it was gray.
On this case, yeah the task E would be assign wrongly.
But that's just so much conditions...
So yeah, I'm now convinced this would be great.
Would it be worst the coding time? I mean, that doesn't look hard... I dunno, I'm way too much biaised.
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